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Post by microbet on May 8, 2019 3:31:27 GMT
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Post by jmakin on May 8, 2019 4:15:53 GMT
i had one of the worst fkn work days of my life today. A little behind on stuff. Sorry.
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Post by lapka on May 8, 2019 4:35:28 GMT
What totally helps on the bad days is to know that you have an alternative. You don't have to stay there. Or just to decide that you dgaf.
From what you wrote to this point, it is too chaotic environment for you to ever feel happy and at peace there.
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Post by microbet on May 8, 2019 5:27:50 GMT
I was going to say something in the governance thread, but I decided things are going great. What more can you ask for than a government that is so busy talking about itself that it does nothing. This site is running with essentially no problems and no government. Do many users feel like the mods are doing anything wrong? Don't most people feel like they could get modded if they wanted to? Don't people feel that if they had a problem with modding that they would get heard?
2p2 ran a bit like this and the posters lead Mat and Mason. They tried to accommodate people, but when push came to shove, they felt pressure to make the final decisions. We could get into some situation where groups of posters have irreconcilable wishes, but if it came to that I think we could handle that with a vote. Our voting turnout problems are because there isn't really much controversy. Everything is going ok.
Anyway, jmakin, no worries. Sorry you had a bad day.
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Post by jmakin on May 8, 2019 5:28:35 GMT
I’m trapped here by my resume. It looks so bad if i leave. I also havent developed any real skills since ive been here. Im unmarketable if i leave here and they know it.
Im trapped in my house too. Sorry just not in a good state. Maybe this new project can give me something to focus on
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Post by microbet on May 8, 2019 5:29:20 GMT
Speaking of days at work, I spent some of mine under a dirty trailer crawling on some huge batteries and if one of the cables I was working with touched the wrong things, dunno, maybe they blow up. So, not a bad day, but it had potential to turn bad.
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Post by jmakin on May 8, 2019 5:39:36 GMT
I would so much prefer that to slow mental torture
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Post by Rexx14 on May 8, 2019 5:42:10 GMT
Well as a government official I'm happy to take criticism but as you said everything is running pretty well now with no real guidelines in place. Perhaps anarchy is the way forward!
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Post by lapka on May 8, 2019 6:55:36 GMT
I’m trapped here by my resume. It looks so bad if i leave. I also havent developed any real skills since ive been here. Im unmarketable if i leave here and they know it. Im trapped in my house too. Sorry just not in a good state. Maybe this new project can give me something to focus on Nahhhhh, you are so not trapped. By neither. If you want, you can send me your resume and three jobs you think that you would like to try. I mean.... clearly my English is not enough to make a good application in English, but
what I could do is give some ideas, how to present your skills so that they fit to one or other job posting. Also totally use HT for that. Give him the opportunity to do something good.
The trick with job is "know yourself" and don't go for money but for quality of life.
I don't know...... I was years ago extremely unhappy in my job: burned out, stressed out, unappreciated and unmotivated. Right now it goes already for years very good and constantly increasing in how good it is.
I totally like my job now. It is somehow right amount of challenging and a ton of freedom and I feel appreciated and that people around me care. Things and decisions of the bosses make sense. And we laugh a lot here.
It is not the top money, but I have fun.
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Post by lapka on May 8, 2019 7:00:28 GMT
I was going to say something in the governance thread, but I decided things are going great. What more can you ask for than a government that is so busy talking about itself that it does nothing. This site is running with essentially no problems and no government. Do many users feel like the mods are doing anything wrong? Don't most people feel like they could get modded if they wanted to? Don't people feel that if they had a problem with modding that they would get heard? 2p2 ran a bit like this and the posters lead Mat and Mason. They tried to accommodate people, but when push came to shove, they felt pressure to make the final decisions. We could get into some situation where groups of posters have irreconcilable wishes, but if it came to that I think we could handle that with a vote. Our voting turnout problems are because there isn't really much controversy. Everything is going ok. Anyway, jmakin, no worries. Sorry you had a bad day. Moar rants or something...... I totally get ideas from that!
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Post by zikzak on May 8, 2019 12:25:04 GMT
I was going to say something in the governance thread, but I decided things are going great. What more can you ask for than a government that is so busy talking about itself that it does nothing. This site is running with essentially no problems and no government. Do many users feel like the mods are doing anything wrong? Don't most people feel like they could get modded if they wanted to? Don't people feel that if they had a problem with modding that they would get heard? 2p2 ran a bit like this and the posters lead Mat and Mason. They tried to accommodate people, but when push came to shove, they felt pressure to make the final decisions. We could get into some situation where groups of posters have irreconcilable wishes, but if it came to that I think we could handle that with a vote. Our voting turnout problems are because there isn't really much controversy. Everything is going ok. Anyway, jmakin, no worries. Sorry you had a bad day. I think we're vulnerable to a lot of things that can go wrong, and that complacency is dangerous.
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Post by microbet on May 8, 2019 13:11:30 GMT
So many negative waves.
You wanted 1-3 days and I tried to rally for that. You wanted process and I rallied a project manager. That's doing all I can do, or will do anyway.
I guess I could try to beg some lawbros to do something about legal structure. Hmmm...maybe I'll work on simplicitus. The lengths I go to to try to cheer you up!
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Post by lapka on May 8, 2019 13:41:16 GMT
micro is impressively brave.
I mean .... what can go REALLY wrong? What is the worst case scenario in the current situation? I think at the moment the worst case is that people get bored and leave. Is it a disaster for anyone? I hope not. I clearly hope also that it won't happen, but if.... so be it.
For me it is about learning, about trying to navigate all technical stuff but also about how does a group of people function together, how should I act to achieve the best result, how is a coop set-up, how is a non-profit set-up, how to set-up a board of such structures, how do they become a legal entities.....
I will be 100% smarter after this experience.
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Post by microbet on May 8, 2019 13:54:08 GMT
Ok, zz, I stirred up trouble with a new thread on money. You should be careful about calling me complacent.
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Post by microbet on May 8, 2019 13:58:22 GMT
Lapka,
Thanks. You mean brave about the site or crawling on explosive batteries? I think I was pretty smart and careful about the batteries actually. But it was prime black widow territory. If you mean about the site, whatever could go wrong there will be no explosions or black widows.
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Post by lapka on May 8, 2019 14:14:00 GMT
Both.... I think that fear is an interesting thing.... On one side it is pretty useful, it makes us careful and allows to survive. On the other side it is such HUGE HUGE HUGE enormous hold-back in life. It makes people so often act to their detriment, so often stay in the situations because they fear "What if it will become worse". It is difficult to access it rationally an make really a risk calculation.
I was so scared to become unemployed when I had my first job, that I tried with all my might to hold on to it. Losing this fear and being able to give a notice the moment I feel really wrong in a job improved my life enormously. Similar with relationships and many other things.
Here it might happen that your bravery will lead to a new site launched about a year before all legal stuff is really regulated.
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Post by zikzak on May 8, 2019 15:52:45 GMT
Ok, zz, I stirred up trouble with a new thread on money. You should be careful about calling me complacent. I wasn't calling you complacent, just pointing out that complacency can be dangerous. You've clearly been one of the most active and involved.
Besides, it gave me an excuse to post some Massive Attack.
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Post by microbet on May 8, 2019 16:11:50 GMT
I'm stealing this from gregoreo in the governance forum. This looks good. Allows for things to proceed when votes just don't happen because not enough people are interested. Allows for objections to change that course and turn it into something that gets voted on.
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Post by jmakin on May 8, 2019 16:30:10 GMT
that's basically what I had imagined, I'm glad they thought of it too. I think we could easily have a proposal by end of week if we had to.
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Post by Loden Pants on May 8, 2019 23:24:14 GMT
Well, just saw this forum. This thread is supposed to be low content, so uh, let's see. I am only trapped by my house and my kids. DD19 just finished up freshman year, so 6 more tuition payments to go till freedom. Also have some house problems: I found asbestos in some adhesive in the basement, so I'll have to deal with that before embarking on the renovations I want to do. After a few years of enjoying our renovation, we'll sell the house, and I'll retire.
I'm kind of trapped by the job, but not really. I've been with the same company a long time, so I might have to take a significant pay cut to make a move. My new boss is taking almost the whole summer off, leaving our small team with not a huge amount of work. I could go interview, or I could just collect a paycheck and work on my garden. Or on Unstuck.
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Post by goofyballer on May 9, 2019 6:01:16 GMT
With this being the "talk about your tech job" thread, I just started a new job I detailed a bit in the programming forum on 2+2. It's at a well-known Bay Area tech company. I like it a lot so far, and it's not too grueling or anything but I also want to prove myself and kick a lot of ass this year so my manager will be like "hey we should give you raises and promote you".
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Post by microbet on May 9, 2019 6:38:57 GMT
My part-time gig that I had mentioned in the 2p2 programming thread is very part time lately. There isn't much budget and they are only able to give me like 2 or 3 days at a time. I've had some other little things though like I put up a little online store that I'm partners in. Also, I'm going to have a project for a friend in SF who is part of a small company and that'll probably be in React. And I'll probably work up there for at least a week or two.
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Post by lapka on May 9, 2019 7:10:50 GMT
Micro, tx for posting this flow chart here. I was so frustrated by the government forum, that I somehow skipped reading it.
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Post by Deuce on May 20, 2019 22:55:56 GMT
Sorry everyone for being absent... I've getting absolutely slammed with work and personal stuff for a month straight. I promise to make an effort to spend more time making no discernible positive contribution to the tech forum.
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Post by jmakin on May 21, 2019 0:41:52 GMT
We have this remote guy at my job that I think I need to really throw under the bus.
The guy is a constant snag and everyone at some point has very vocally complained about him. His official title is "solutions engineer" but he's basically a sales engineer. Kerowo said it funny in the programming LC thread, that he sounds more sales than engineer. Totally true.
His field of expertise is financial tech but he doesnt seem to know much about anything else. He constantly says he will do x by y date and when you check on him it's like the conversation never happened.
So we have been waiting for this large company to give us some compiled super-secret code to test on our solution. It seems to get endlessly delayed - I found emails from last summer that were saying they were "very close" to sending us something.
Anyway our (terrible) contract says we have 6 weeks from the time they deliver the code, to performing an audit of the solution with a 3rd party. Their (ONLY) contact has been the sales engineer.
I've made a point to ask him every single day in slack to update his status on things, it's the usual delaying, stalling, oh I'll work really hard this weekend, wheels spinning endlessly kind of thing. Fine. But I had asked him pointedly several times if we ever received the code we were supposed to receive - I usually ask about 3x weekly. Over the top but I wanted to make it very clear a while ago I was following up with this guy because the blame usually falls to me on this kind of stuff. A big part of my job unfortunately is constantly just chasing after people, I didnt choose it, that's just what they want so I do it.
So today we get an email to the larger channel - all the important people, me, some very important big company people, from the large company, pinging us asking the status of the code they have sent us.
Um, what code? Huh? I immediately panicked and my bosses were fuming, like why didn't I tell them the code was already delivered, if I have bad news i need to give it to them ASAP, etc. etc. I honestly have been juggling 85 things lately so I really thought I must have missed some email or message somewhere. I exhaustively reviewed the communications and realized very quickly this guy was just flat out lying about this for at least 2 weeks, maybe longer. I even had documented one crucial private exchange I had with him a few weeks ago and had forwarded it to my boss - he made it very clear, NO they have not sent us anything, I will let you know when they do.
So, he had to have received it in the last few weeks. For the timer to start on us he would have to verify performance and validity of the code they sent. He is really slow to do things so there's no way they sent it late last week, like the sales guy and his boss (director of sales) are claiming. he HAD to have received it weeks ago and there's no other possible explanation. And even if he did somehow receive it late last week, not mention it at all (even the CEO asked him to give daily updates), compile it (there are new API's in their code not compatible with our solution so there's no way he could do this in like, a day or two), set the solution up, test it and validate it - and then not mention it? Huh? Also if large company sent us something late last week - why would they be pinging us already today? That doesn't really happen unless it's been a week+.
My bullshit detector has been going off the charts for months about this guy and I've expressed concerns multiple times, I always get referred to HIS boss (the director of sales) who says he'll deal with it. But now I'm thinking there's absolutely no way the director could have NOT known about this, from the email/message exchanges I analyzed this afternoon.
It was mostly an exercise to cover my own ass and see if I made some kind of mistake but I think this guy is completely FOS and I don't know what to do about it. I told my boss everything I found this afternoon and he says we should talk to the CEO about it. I hope I am not stirring a hornet's nest over nothing but this guy has been a constant bottleneck and has affected my team negatively so many times I feel like I can't continue forward with the guy anymore because I straight up do not trust a word out of his mouth right now.
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Post by Deuce on May 22, 2019 21:57:37 GMT
How did the other company send the code? Wouldn't it be trivially easy to find when they did?
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Post by jmakin on May 23, 2019 1:06:51 GMT
This guy is our only contact. I have asked him to forward emails but he will ignore it or come up with an excuse.
Told my bosses to deal with it because something doesnt seem right.
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Post by lapka on May 23, 2019 6:56:46 GMT
JM,
just cover your butt and look for a new job. Everything you write about this one sounds endless stressy and unsatisfying. I mean.... Job is huge part of your life and it must give you more than just a living. Somehow the balance must be right. And I mean..... if you project how it is going now into the future, where does it end? Burn-out? Do you need it?
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Post by Marksman on Jun 4, 2019 13:21:20 GMT
Just wanted to say hi. Didn’t give up on this just been sick was in hospital for quite a while but doing better now.
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Post by whosnext on Jun 4, 2019 16:37:25 GMT
Hope you get well soon.
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